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we're going to win nevada. we're going to win new hampshire. i think we have an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. and it also could be close. >> check those numbers, what do you make of those states? is that a good list? >> i think the ceiling is somewhere 300, 303 if you want to be exact the numbers i've done. if you throw in north carolina it could be 318 max. that's possible. they could all be 51, 49 at the end of the day. i do want to say i think a lot of us, we're sort of victims of 2004. before 2004 we were all more convinced of the challenger incumbent rule. that somehow challengers always got the undecided and then a tie goes to the challenger. then you're happened when bush won frankly as many of the undecided as he did. then you'd have to go back to '76 the last time the person with momentum lost at the end. lost the popular vote. that was ford. ford had the momentum but carter won in the end. even gore, he had the last-second momentum. he did win the popular vote. having the momentum has it in the
we're going to win nevada. we're going to win new hampshire. i think we have an even chance of winning virginia and florida. so it could be a big win. and it also could be close. >> check those numbers, what do you make of those states? is that a good list? >> i think the ceiling is somewhere 300, 303 if you want to be exact the numbers i've done. if you throw in north carolina it could be 318 max. that's possible. they could all be 51, 49 at the end of the day. i do want to say i...
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. >> nevada i take more votes away from obama. in north carolina, michigan, i take more votes away from romney. i think it's really equal on both sides. >> cenk: now wait until i show you the numbers how much different it is when you include a third-party candidate in which no polling was done until two days ago. oh boy, and the elbow of the day, that's republican-on-republican crime. everybody, it's go time. >> romney: i'm mitt romney. i believe in america. and i'm running for president. >> an underdog senator. nobody thought that he had a chance. now he's the president. >> romney: that is quite an orlando welcome. we ask that you stay at this all the way until victory on tuesday night. >> i stood with president obama four years ago and i'm proud to be standing here with him today. [ singing ] >> every day i'm concerned about women's rights and health issues. i don't need to tell you about the dangers to roe versus wade. >> tomorrow we begin a new tomorrow. >> we know what change looks like then ♪ ohio ♪ make some noise ♪ >
. >> nevada i take more votes away from obama. in north carolina, michigan, i take more votes away from romney. i think it's really equal on both sides. >> cenk: now wait until i show you the numbers how much different it is when you include a third-party candidate in which no polling was done until two days ago. oh boy, and the elbow of the day, that's republican-on-republican crime. everybody, it's go time. >> romney: i'm mitt romney. i believe in america. and i'm running...
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i will give you nevada as your best of the battleground states. what's your worst? what are you most worried about? >> well, you know, john, somebody was quoted yesterday as saying that's like choosing between our children. >> so choose. >> we are tied or -- i'm not going to do that. we're tied or ahead in every single battleground state. certainly some of them are tighter than others. north carolina is extremely tight. but we're pleased with where we are going into election day. we have advantage on the early vote. we've done significant work with voter registration in that state. we're close in florida. again, significant advantage on early vote. and done a lot of work on voter registration. >> can i run that through the universal political translator and say you're most worried about north carolina and florida? >> those are your words. >> let me bring in david gergen. he's also got a question. >> stephanie, good to see you. tell us what three things we should be looking for tomorrow night as a sense of which way it's going. what are you going to be looking for? >
i will give you nevada as your best of the battleground states. what's your worst? what are you most worried about? >> well, you know, john, somebody was quoted yesterday as saying that's like choosing between our children. >> so choose. >> we are tied or -- i'm not going to do that. we're tied or ahead in every single battleground state. certainly some of them are tighter than others. north carolina is extremely tight. but we're pleased with where we are going into election...
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nevada at 15.1%. colorado 15.7%. swing states where you're winning by a margin of 3-1 this can really shift those tightly tightly-fought states. answer for me, why was mitt romney so tone deaf on the issue of immigration? >> well, you know, it's not just mitt romney. it's the republican party really. when they had the tea party waved and most of the moderate republicans were swept out of office because they lost primary elections to these very extreme tea party candidate tea party candidates are completely wrong on the issue of immigration and they're amped up with their rhetoric. i think the republican party has a lot of soul searching to do. here in the state of california republican registration has dipped below 30% for the first tame. they're quickly becoming a permanent minority party. they've completely missed the boat on immigration. we're a country of immigrants. the majority of people regardless of their political affiliation think that immigration is good for this country, and it revitalizes this country. m
nevada at 15.1%. colorado 15.7%. swing states where you're winning by a margin of 3-1 this can really shift those tightly tightly-fought states. answer for me, why was mitt romney so tone deaf on the issue of immigration? >> well, you know, it's not just mitt romney. it's the republican party really. when they had the tea party waved and most of the moderate republicans were swept out of office because they lost primary elections to these very extreme tea party candidate tea party...
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iowa and nevada have been put away. i don't think new hampshire and wisconsin have. but i think that's reflect in that poll. the second that's occurred is every single poll i've seen shows more optimism about the economy than there was a month ago. not people aren't off the charts mind you, but a third of the people think the economy is in good shape. another 20% think it's getting in better shape and those are better numbers than the summer. >> rose: let me ask about florida, john harris, and pennsylvania. >> it looks like florida is most likely in romney's camp. not certain. it seems to me that if obama wins florida he's going to win a bunch of other states and we'll have a map that looks more like 2008 than we've been thinking this last month or so where hi would win most of the state he is won in 2008 minus north carolina and indiana. that's an early night for us all. althoughs pennsylvania better than i do. i don't think it's been awe thenltally in play. i think there was a series of head fakes going on but that's never been a central battleground. >> rose: mark
iowa and nevada have been put away. i don't think new hampshire and wisconsin have. but i think that's reflect in that poll. the second that's occurred is every single poll i've seen shows more optimism about the economy than there was a month ago. not people aren't off the charts mind you, but a third of the people think the economy is in good shape. another 20% think it's getting in better shape and those are better numbers than the summer. >> rose: let me ask about florida, john...
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if i give him nevada, iowa and wisconsin, 259/206. what does governor romney have to do? he must win the state of florida. tonight the democrats say we think we're still in play. give them truth sear rum, which ones are you likely to lose, they put florida on the list. the obama operation says watch us turn out the vote tomorrow. let's assume it stays with its normal republican dna, we'll keep it there. virginia is a must win for governor romney. we are wired on the ground, we can do it, the key will be the northern virginia suburbs. for the sake of argument, i know democrats are getting mad at me, i'm going to give it to governor romney. if we do that, this could be a decisive state. for the sake of argument, the obama campaign says we have this state. watch what happens tomorrow, especially in evangelical areas. i'm going to this hypothetical to show you how close this would be. it would leave us only ohio and new hampshire. you only get 4 in new hampshire, 18 in ohio. under any scenario, i could switch a few of these in plausible ways. under any scenario, this becomes
if i give him nevada, iowa and wisconsin, 259/206. what does governor romney have to do? he must win the state of florida. tonight the democrats say we think we're still in play. give them truth sear rum, which ones are you likely to lose, they put florida on the list. the obama operation says watch us turn out the vote tomorrow. let's assume it stays with its normal republican dna, we'll keep it there. virginia is a must win for governor romney. we are wired on the ground, we can do it, the...
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and then sharon engel in nevada. harry reid should be retired watching boxing matches. >> it's political malpractice on the part of the republicans if you want to be in leadership. >> even if the margin is narrow and obama wins subject tomorrow morning has got to be in many ways, we'll have many issues to cover, but politically the fate of the republican party. >> there's no doubt about it. >> demographically, ideologically and all the rest. it's in real trouble even if the margin is narrow. >> and the big question is especially for conservative, movement conservatives are going to be asking how did we lose this race? we will be asking the question that democrats and people that write for the new yorker were asking after you lost to george w. bush twice. let's go now to elijah cummings in baltimore, maryland. how's it going, buddy? how are you feeling? >> i feel great. >> are you going to guarantee that the president will carry maryland tonight? are you willing to step out on a limb? >> by at least 25 points. by at l
and then sharon engel in nevada. harry reid should be retired watching boxing matches. >> it's political malpractice on the part of the republicans if you want to be in leadership. >> even if the margin is narrow and obama wins subject tomorrow morning has got to be in many ways, we'll have many issues to cover, but politically the fate of the republican party. >> there's no doubt about it. >> demographically, ideologically and all the rest. it's in real trouble even if...
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if you look at ohio, if you look at wisconsin, if you look at nevada, if you look at iowa, the president has been consist eventually in the lead there. and romney basically has to run the table to even have a shot. >> but the republican argument, ari, which was the john kerry argument, which has always been the argument in these situations, is when the incumbent polls below 50, the incumbent is in danger no matter what the other number is. so if the incumbent is at 48, the challenger is at 46, the challenger is probably in a better position, most of the time. however, we're making new mathematical history in these campaigns all the time. and you can see that argument, because it's an old argument. it's been around a while. it didn't work for john kerry and it's hard to say what's going to happen now. >> yeah. i spent over a year working seven days a week for john kerry so i'm familiar with that argument, i remember that argument. i think the critical question then as now is whether the challenger is viewed to be credible by election day. if you look at polling of a generic republican ver
if you look at ohio, if you look at wisconsin, if you look at nevada, if you look at iowa, the president has been consist eventually in the lead there. and romney basically has to run the table to even have a shot. >> but the republican argument, ari, which was the john kerry argument, which has always been the argument in these situations, is when the incumbent polls below 50, the incumbent is in danger no matter what the other number is. so if the incumbent is at 48, the challenger is...
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giving president virginia, ohio, wisconsin, nevada, mitt romney the state of colorado and the state of north carolina and my little out on the limb here because of the resent trends that are happening in the past few days in the polling i'm actually going to give the president to win florida again around. >> that's pretty bold, man. that's 323 electoral votes. so you're putting 323 on the map for obama. that will be a crushing victory. >> it would be a big victory. 323 to 215. actually, i think the one that i'm sort of the most tentative would be florida, but i actually think now after looking at a lot of the polls that it's a chance worth taking. >> all right now i'm going for president obama pennsylvania, which is obvious. i think he's going to win wisconsin, ohio, nevada and iowa, i think he has a comfortable lead in there. new hampshire, i think he has a lead in. i don't think that's controversial. i think president obama has a decent shot at winning colorado. i'm going to give him colorado. but i take away virginia and florida. so when you do that and switch that up, there you go.
giving president virginia, ohio, wisconsin, nevada, mitt romney the state of colorado and the state of north carolina and my little out on the limb here because of the resent trends that are happening in the past few days in the polling i'm actually going to give the president to win florida again around. >> that's pretty bold, man. that's 323 electoral votes. so you're putting 323 on the map for obama. that will be a crushing victory. >> it would be a big victory. 323 to 215....